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Nailz
| Ok, first off I want to thank Hextorr for taking the time
to meet us, and answer our questions. Representing AO Stratics
today will be Greystar, Meister and myself.
Could you please introduce yourself for the one that doesn't
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Well, my character is Hextorr; I play in RK1, started on 20
July 2001. It was my First char and basically my only one. What
else you want to know ;) Had to order via Internet |
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Heh you started about 1 month later than me ;) |
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| How come you stuck with the Fixer profession, even if is one
of the hardest professions to level up? |
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Well, believe it or not, because after reading the descriptions
I was left to believe "it is a great solo class",
I like to be independent. The "underground" side implied
to it was also very appealing. That was why I choose, it why
I stick to it.
The game was new, no one new yet what worked and what not, it
was only after you already put some time and effort into your
char that you began to see the difficulties, but with other
classes going to the same difficulties and getting fixed along
the way, you hope and believe that you will soon be next to
be fixed, although unfortunately for the Fixer class it seems
to be more complicated
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| And how satisfying has it been to you during these months
of gameplay? The different patches etc? |
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That is a not easy to answer question. From the class itself,
just taking the class in consideration, it has not been rewarding,
I have put so much effort into this character, levelled it to
200 and yet I am left with a sense of lack in return, the Fixer
is not a powerful class, its not an easy class, and definitely
not a rewarding class. I am eagerly awaiting something that
will bring the Fixer class up to par with the other strong and
well-defined classes they (FC) have proven it possible to take
a totally broken class and make it work and strong, so our day
will come.
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Meister
| So what will you do now, at level 200?
You cant level anymore ;) |
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About being lvl 200. High lvl game content is almost non existent
at this time I had hoped I could have some pvp fun but the pvp
system is still not very good, will improve when we can capture
territory etc. One thing that worries me is the game focus being
totally on the missions.
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* Meister agrees
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With new items coming into the game as boss loot only it will
force people back into the missions which is totally wrong.
There is so much land that could be put to good use. I believe
they should change the focus to the outside zones, they have
too. One thing I've been doing more now, is plan events and
participate in them with my Guild. Also I'm looking forward
to story and GM events
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How do you feel about the balance of the professions now versus
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Class balance is the most touchy aspect of the game, you
have the pvm and the pvp to look at, and balance the classes
for both aspects. What we see now is a huge class imbalance,
but we also see some classes being lifted up and coming up to
par with the strong classes, while other are still left down
there. They have to be careful not to leave one class for too
much time in the down side. And have to be careful about not
having one class completely dominate other classes for too long
also. It is hard to come with good class balances out of test
server, but you can see well the impacts on the live server
and things should be done faster when there are such imbalances,
both to the too powerful and to the too weak. Fixer without
Grid Armor is close to unplayable in solo. And in pvp if you
give me a lvl 200 char of every class and let me tune them,
then put them again each other I will kill my fixer with any
other class :/
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With a Crat too? ;)
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Maybe not with an Engie they are not too good for pvp its
true. Crats is close call ;) but can be done
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* Hextorr feels he might have generalised
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Tell us a bit of the Fixer community. They have been very
vocal on the message boards, and have one of the strongest communities
among the AO-professions
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Fixer community is the best in AO. It seems that from our
pain we have gathered together to help each other and to build
good ideas as to what might help our class. But the word on
ideas now is don't post them on the boards, it will be given
away to other classes. I am really happy that other classes
are getting good fixes, but in the Fixer community we feel like
we are being neglected and having our ideas ripped off. The
communication has improved no doubt, the past weeks, and might
be a good sign for the future. We do get vocal at times, but
then again we should something's are just too much to bear ;)
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Guilds in general. What have they meant to you in the game?
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I joined Opposing Force in the end of august/beginning of
September, cant recall the exact day, but I know I was lvl 37,
was right after they had the news on all the sites about their
raid on a omni Out Post, and I said to myself "hmm this
is exactly what is missing, I want to be a part of this"
so I joined them and have been with OpFor ever since ;)
Guilds are important as organised groups that you can mobilise,
in our OpFor events we often call on other guilds to help us
with more manpower and it works very well. Utildai is a Leader
at heart, he doesn't care much about levelling, but he is truly
a leader, he is very much into Story driven events and creating
an impact on RK we need more people like him to make all this
story start to boil :)
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Yes, regarding the story. How much have you seen from your
point of view of that? Is it all guild-based, or have you been
personally contacted to participate?
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Regarding the story and FC participation in events they are
"testing" out guilds I think they have good plans
to let the players take a great role in the story we have been
approached my GM characters giving us missions for us to do
There have been some scattered small events. I believe everyone
can participate, there are some events that affect whoever is
passing by and then word gets out and everyone comes, like some
attacks on Athens etc. Others affect more guilds, like being
contacted by GM characters to participate in some events. I
think the story is just starting to warm up, they are still
testing the players and what they can do with us
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Meister
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I sure know that you hurt. Do you have any suggestions how
to get the PvP system balanced a bit more?
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Now about pvp very delicate subject.
Pvp balance is directed to class balance.You need to have your
classes balanced in order to have pvp balance. With some exceptions
to the Engie who is good at solo and bad at pvp and maybe the
Crat too
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Greystar_Euro
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Ah well, pvp balance explanations will be long, so put this
into the queue ;): What is the best ability of the fixer and
what is their biggest weakness compared to other professions?
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But for example the Trader without wanting to have a fun
class have their fun removed and be "nerfed" the
traders completely dominate everything.
Hehe, ill keep it short ;)
Basically you need to insure that no one class dominates over
all the other and that no one class is dominated by all the
others.
In pvp what ever your class, there should always be classes
that kill you and classes that you kill, that is the true
balance. And so far it has not been achieved. Then you also
have some issues as the Specials and crits but that is a whole
separate thing
Basically if you have enough specials you can insta kill we
leave it at that. Now to Greystar question
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Greystar_Euro
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woot!
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Big problem of the fixer, is it has its strengths in all the
weak places ;) What work well dmg, hitpoints, absorb dmg, heal
dmg, reduce your enemies combat capability.
Damage: we lack it, we need weapons which the primary attack
skill is SMG, that do good dmg and have more specials, like
fling which is much better than burst, I wouldn't mind investing
in other skills like AR and RE if the primary skill was SMG.
There is a new weapon on Test, the minor suppressor, SMG/RE
and has burst, seems good, and might help in pvm, but for pvp
is useless, not enough specials, if you invest in SMG/RE then
you don't have any good weapon to use for pvp in that line of
skills. You could go AR/SMG there are some weapons there you
could use like the Heavy suppressor, but the primary skill is
AR and the FA requirement too high so you are always left with
very few options.
You can go AR/RE but then that's 2 dark blue skills, which brings
to what I was saying, strong in the weak places.
Then we have hitpoints: Fixer does not have much base hitpoints
and worst of all, no boost to that base hp. Absorb damage, we
got nothing here, so we pretty much just count on our base HP,
no shields no AC boosts.
Heal damage, our hot is expensive, short and weak, in a pvp
fight it helps when you run away and let it heal but it's not
effective. Reduce your enemies combat ability, we have an -85
evade debuff, that gets resisted very easy in pvm not so in
pvp because resist is broken.
Our roots are only good if you have the area the size of a football
field to fight in. Our area slows are nice and so is the single
slow although this one cloud be stronger but again, we need
a lot of room to use this effectively, and they are useless
in pvp because people break them in under one second with a
general debuff, and they break too easy when you shoot (not
roots, roots would be over powering if they didn't break in
pvp). So you see, we have little features and most of them are
not helping us much. We also have some speed buffs but at the
high players everyone is very fast, everyone gets the buff,
and then something designed to give our class an advantage everyone
has you should see a fixer fighting an enforcer with grid speed
and their own runbuff not a pretty sight.
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How would you describe the economy of AO? Is it too hard to
get money at lower level and too easy in the higher levels?
Or do you see it balancing out in the end?
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I think money is fairly easy. In the very first levels it's
a bit tight, but all you need is to run a few missions, in the
high lvl it's abundant.
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Greystar_Euro
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(unless you want to buy Grid Armor mk4) coughs
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I did it ;) it hurts
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Nullity I say!!!!
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But all it took me was 4 days of mission blitzing
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Greystar_Euro
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How much did you pay?
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Triple digits I don't want to say the exact figure, I hope
prices go down ;)
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* Greystar_Euro grins
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How much have you /played on Hextorr? Compared to other MMORPGs,
would you say AO is too easy to level in (not considering profession)?
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To know the /played I have to log on ;) give me a sec
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The moment of truth...
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75 days, 7 hours, 11 minutes, 12 seconds. now I wish I hadn't
find out hehe. I think levelling could be made harder but you
have to give players something else, other "rewards"
for their time. Tradeskills could be a way if it were a separate
system from levelling. Maybe you could do levelling harder but
give something else for players to look forward to, not just
the IP at the end of the lvl
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Greystar_Euro
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If you could strengthen one single ability of the Fixer, what
would it be? Damage output? Speed? Evades? AC? HP? Healing strength?
Or something else?
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I agree that fixers should not be dealing as much dmg as soldiers
I am wielding a Flashpoint a nova and something else for pvp
;)
I can do good damage, but I don't feel too Fixerish it's not
the fixer way, and it's all based on dark blue skills, it just
doesn't seem right. I think evades should work better, and I
really hope the new additions to the Grid Armor make it good
for pvp. Basically we need to avoid more dmg and to reduce the
enemies' capability to fight. I have a few suggestions off the
top of my mind:
1) ASMG with burst and fling make it SMG/pistol or SMG/AR etc
etc, I don't care as long as its SMG in primary skill and there
is a reason for the extra IP spent, it has to work, this should
give us a little more dmg
2) Our evade debuff, make it top at -150 instead of -85
3) Snares this is an idea from the fixer forums, make it debuff
the initiative of the target so they shoot slower, you could
also add a small attck rate debuff
4) HoT I believe they are going to do something about this,
they have said so we really need to regenerate faster right
now, you shoot someone they heal it up immediately, you have
to go through their nano pool to kill them, (unless you can
kill very fast) but Fixers need to run away to heal and takes
too long
5) Fixers are not faster than other on high lvl, everyone is
running around with our buffs, there should be a team vs. of
run buff and then a self only version with much better speed
buff so we retain some advantage in speed
These few changes would help to start with, then after seeing
the effects there could be further changes
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Hextorr, any tips for the up and coming Fixers today? Any
tips in what to avoid from your experiences?
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Nailz, lets see ;)
Max our HP keep your evades current, keep your equipment the
best you can, and stay in teams if you want to lvl until FC
fixes us ;) Get Grid Armor, its good for pvm, unless you get
hit by the chain crit bug then you die fast
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Sounds very smart advice there
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*** TiffanyKo has joined #ao200
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Hiyas
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Heya TiffanyKo
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Greystar_Euro
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Hi tiff ;)
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Hia Tiff :)
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TiffanyKo
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=))
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TiffanyKo
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So are you guys all from the Stratics network?
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Greystar_Euro
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You are among clanners, beware ;)
Hehe Hextorr is not, we are ;)
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Good to see you tiff, and grats on 200 ;)
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TiffanyKo
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Oh Hextorr, I remember seeing u
Tehee
Sorry I'm late, just saw the email right now =P
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Hehe np
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TiffanyKo
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Why are you here too? =P
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TiffanyKo, we originally wanted to do a double interview with
the first lvl 200 Fixer and MP
Grey, do you have any more questions for Hextorr?
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Greystar_Euro
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Nope, that's it, and I got more than I asked for ;)
Thanks hex
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You're welcome
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TiffanyKo
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Ooops Sorry =(
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It's ok Tiff, np :)
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I have time, if you still want me to comment on some MP/Fixer
comparisons as we go along, you can concentrate on tiff ;)
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TiffanyKo
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Where's Meister? =P
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He disconnected a while back
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TiffanyKo
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I c
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Could you please introduce yourself Tiff, for the ones that
don't know you?
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TiffanyKo
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I am Michelle, 19 yrs old, Taiwanese, living in US etc like
this? =P
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Greystar_Euro
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Hehe something like that
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Sure, and would you like to say something of your character
TiffanyKo
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TiffanyKo
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And I've been playing AO for I don't know how long /played
shows 74 days hmm
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That is 1 day less than Hextorr ;)
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* Hextorr grins
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Greystar_Euro
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I got a pioneer backpack, must have started earlier ;)
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TiffanyKo
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I was originally planning on making a guide to levelling or
something like that.
Greyster, /played shows the time character been logged in =)
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Greystar_Euro
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I know, have about 160 combined on all chars lol
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Nailz
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Tiff, as I understand, you don't PvP much why is that?
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TiffanyKo
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On the PVP issue, hex I don't think level & item based
game can have any pvp
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I agree on the item part, I think skill should be much more
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TiffanyKo
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Skills = levels for the most part
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But I disagree on the lvl part, being a fixer, lvl means nothing,
I am actively chased by people many lvls below :/
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TiffanyKo
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I just do not think pvp system in this game is ANY good
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But of course, better equipment = stronger character. Pvp
needs a lot of work.
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TiffanyKo
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1st part is everyone gets buffs and then fight, there's never
fairness
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And there's no meaning either, just a silly title, no bonuses
to your character
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TiffanyKo
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2nd is most players "pvp" in groups, so they should
call it "pvg"
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Hextorr
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Can't take over territory. The existing pvp areas are a joke.
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TiffanyKo
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Don't really matter on the bonus part imho, as long as pvp
is fun and fair, people will play. AO's pvp = Player Soldier
press 3 keys and opponent dies
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I like the team pvp aspect, its good, I want massive wars!
True, specials and crits are out of hand. Specials should give
an edge, not instakill
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TiffanyKo
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Although that's only 1 aspect of the pvp'ing issue, but pvp
system as a whole is like that unfair and no fun
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Nailz
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Tiff, you have been grouping most of your time. What have
guilds meant for you in this period?
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TiffanyKo
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Guilds didn't really mean anything to me. =P
My pet adds 2k dmg avg. to team avg. dmg output
hehe
I have about all the friends i enjoy grouping with on my Close-Friend
list, they are from all different guilds. So guild to me is
really a chat client
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Nailz
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I see. This i asked Hextorr too: How do you perceive the economy
in AO?
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TiffanyKo
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Economy?
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* Hextorr laughs
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TiffanyKo
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Money was never a problem to me and i think its really unimportant
in a Level based game.
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Greystar_Euro
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I have my old questions stored up too...where were they...*starts
searching*
What is the best ability of the MP and what is their biggest
weakness compared to other professions?
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TiffanyKo
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Good one. Best ability in the area of leveling has to be Nano
Skills Buffs. Weakness... compared to other proffs. has to be
no specialized weapon skills
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Greystar_Euro
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That leads to my second question ;)
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TiffanyKo
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Go ahead =)
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Greystar_Euro
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If you could strengthen one single ability of the MP, what
would it be? Damage output (pet/nukes)? Pet pathing? Debuffs?
Evades? AC? HP? Healing strength? Or something else?
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TiffanyKo
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Damage Output, for its THE most important area in leveling
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Greystar_Euro
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How would you go about that ? strengthen pets somehow ? Better
nukes ? New weapons ?
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TiffanyKo
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That's exactly the characteristic or difference between MP
and a Crat. Crat has better pet, better nuke, and better pistols.
It will be nice if MP can be like that also. At least the MP
weapons (1h + 2h blunt) should be green.
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Greystar_Euro
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I agree, those are used with the creation nanos, it is a bit
strange that MPs have no buffs nor less expensive skill costs
in that area
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TiffanyKo
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Right
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Greystar_Euro
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But i guess Hextorr can tell about lack of buffs as well ;)
As in smg/burst buffs
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Nailz
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*cough* NTs *cough*
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Hextorr
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Well, put it this way, if i could only use, the general SMG
buff or the class specific one, i go for the General
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* Greystar_Euro smiles
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Hextorr
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I can buff a whoping 28 SMG, and thats 20 from general buff
;P Does wonders for my attk rating too *smirk*
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Ok, I was thinking we could have a small discussion on the
different issues that MPs and Fixers face
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TiffanyKo
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Sure
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* Hextorr nods
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Hextorr has already answered the Fixer bit, so how about
we skip along to talking regarding the MP/Fixer view of things.
What they can bring into a group etc
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Aah this should interesting ;)
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TiffanyKo
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Good point. Fixers imo is not required for a good group. Imho
=P
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I can agree ;)
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TiffanyKo
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This relates to the subject of a good well-balanced levelling
team
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You can replace a fixer with someone else, not to say that
the fixer is a dead weight I never felt like this, but we are
certainly not required
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TiffanyKo
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Yes
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50ncu for +25dmg none wants
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TiffanyKo
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Fixers at most can do a 10k FA, and about 3k crits, which
is possible by most soldiers
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Nailz
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They are too weak in their areas, as Hextorr has mentioned?
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In missions, speed that reduces your dmg and cancels your
evade buff none wants
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TiffanyKo
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Damage area is fine. Has no really beneficial buffs for the
group
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The cluster bullets (area burst) is useless. With ql199 cluster
bullets I do 100dmg 80% of the time :/ And tops at 600ish very
uncommon
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TiffanyKo
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As Hextorr just said, run buff not only lowers dmg and evades;
a good team player should be able to follow a fast group's pace
with or without a run buff. Good fixer with 10 FA possibility
should be ranked #2 next to soldiers, for soldiers gets way
better buffs
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I read in the article by Dai-Galean (if I'm not mistaken)
he had fixers as tertiary healers, this is simply not true our
hot costs half the nano pool, last 3 minutes, takes too much
NCU and does not heal enough, I can hardly keep it on myself
let alone the rest of the team
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TiffanyKo
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Plus, imho HoT does not help in team mission levelling situations.
Even the best doc HoT
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Tiff, 10k from suppressor, but then the rest of the dmg is
sub par, only good if you can switch to another SMG, like the
MCS (impossible to self equip) or the Sol chironis with a scope,
but again hard to self equip ql200 until 195
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TiffanyKo
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Yes. Fixer definitely needs improvement/balancing in many
areas not only damage dealing
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I do ok, with a flashpoint/nova combo even thou my attck rate
is lower compared to wielding a SMG something is not right ;)
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Nailz
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Do any of you feel that the MP is too powerful?
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TiffanyKo
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Nope
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Nailz
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Hehe
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TiffanyKo
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Crat is #1 damage dealing class in the game, MP is #2
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Greystar_Euro
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(if the Crat can get the pets to the mob g)
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I think until 160ish MP is very powerful, they can summon
very high lvl pets compared to its own lvl, but as MP approaches
lvl 200 the power evens out, it's still a good class, just not
too powerful
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TiffanyKo
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I think trader and MP can be looked as being on the same level,
people think its too powerful yet it's well balanced
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Yes, I am comparing to the top classes. Compared to Fixer
its too powerful hehe ;)
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TiffanyKo
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Hehe
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But actually it's the fixer that is underpowered, not the
MP too powerful
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TiffanyKo
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Right
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Nailz
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How about this, did you ever have trouble getting groups?
I'm thinking about the MPs were gimp #1 at early stages, and
many feel Fixers still are gimps
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TiffanyKo
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Yes.When I started playing, only MP on the server was Trivian
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Greystar I saw something funny once, the Crat in our group
charmed a mob, and the ninja pet was always getting stuck, while
the mob pet had a fairly good pathing probably a fluke but nonetheless
funny ;)
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TiffanyKo
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No one wanted to group with MPs. Emphasize on "wanted".
For that period of time, finding group was hard, but luckily
I always had good friends that can join my group.
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I never had too much trouble teaming I am very active recruiting,
and when I'm not forming my own team, people know me and know
I am reliable to the team, I keep myself alive and stay for
long hours ;)
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TiffanyKo
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Btw, I have never in my AO career, soloed anything, I teamed
all the way =)
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Nailz
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And that changed along the way as we all know. What time/patch
was that?
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TiffanyKo
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When our healing pet was fixed. I started seeing MPs. Forgot
which patch
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Nailz
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Now "everybody" has a MP char, that isn't so with
Fixers
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TiffanyKo
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Right
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Nailz
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You think they will have the same influx when they "get
some love"?
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Fixers suffered the reverse. Many people started fixers, based
on the good description, and then most quit along the way.
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TiffanyKo
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I don't think MP was ever enhanced other than the Anima line,
because the 2nd and 3rd pet was in the original game, they were
just broken for the first period of time =P
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I think when we get the "love patch" and if it really
fix us, we will see an influx of new fixers, and people picking
up their old fixers. Same as when Grid Armor came out, you saw
an influx of fixers, but after everyone realised how rare it
was, most quit again playing the fixer.
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Nailz
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The Fixers had a cool, mysterious description, and the MPs
have QW. How much of an influence does it have on new players
that MP get Quantum Wings? :P
Oh yeah, and NTs are the master of damage :P
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TiffanyKo
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I don't know.
I had Yalmaha way before I could use QW
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* Hextorr grins at Nailz
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Greystar_Euro
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Hehe, I started my mp because of that and not an Engie
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Nailz
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See? It's true!
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Some things don't add up like crats nuking harder than NTs
;)
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TiffanyKo
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Good Crat vs. noob NT =)
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Nailz
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Ok, getting back on track here.
Now that you have maxed the level cap, what new chars will you
start?
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Hmm
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TiffanyKo
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Most likely I won't play anything else other than RP my char,
if not, a Crat
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I don't think I will seriously start an alt until they make
outdoors exping a reality
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TiffanyKo
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Tehee
Greyster do you use pet in missions?
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Greystar_Euro
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Yes. Well I try.With my Crat I have to, no weapon skills yet,
with my Meta I use krutt special mostly alone
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TiffanyKo
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All the other MP except for Trivian do not use pets as part
of their attack
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Greystar_Euro
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Pet pathing doesn't work, otherwise I would ;(
With my crat i have to, no weapon skills yet, with my meta i
use krutt special mostly alone
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TiffanyKo
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All the other MP except for Trivian do not use pets as part
of their attack.
Right
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Hextorr
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Pets tend to slow down a team in missions, it always gets
stuck and abandoned in the early parts of a mission hehe
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Nailz
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Anyone has a comment on the buffs in this game? The MPs have
several important nano buffs, should they charge lots of credits
to buff others?
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TiffanyKo
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Well. I never charge anyone for anything, buffs/implants,
etc.Cuz money was never an issue to me
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Greystar_Euro
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Yes Nailz, MPs should get a million credits for every buff
we cast ;) (I'm not playing a level 163 MP, no no, that's a
lie)
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Hmm, it's weird what people value. I rarely get tipped for
hacking a gun, yet people pay loads for implants, no one pays
for a speed buff, yet wrangles and Mocham's get good tips ;)
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Nailz
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Yes, this is my point Hextorr
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TiffanyKo
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I think MP should not charge as much as traders do to Wrangles.
Well because mochams and wrangles adds the maximum to one's
skills. But wrangle for the least have a penalty on the trader,
and all it requires from MP is one click.
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Yep, it's all on what people value
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TiffanyKo
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That's y I think MP should charge less
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Nailz
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Anything else you guys want to add when it comes to AO? the
company, the community as a whole, the game-world ?
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Hextorr
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Yes. Very important, change the play focus from mission to
the outside. Missions/team missions are for single/teams to
get items and fast cash
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TiffanyKo
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Right, more player interaction
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I for one do not want to be forced into missions again, with
the upcoming new items being boss loot only
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TiffanyKo
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Team mission I think is the best thing happened to AO =)
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They should make those items available from outside spawns
give it meaning, give the monster "families" a History
and specific loot. If you want certain items go kill a certain
type of mob whets the difference between medusas and Cyborgs?
There should be more meaning to the things.
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TiffanyKo
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=P
Right
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When you make a painting you have to be able to explain why
you did it the way you did, there are reasons and meanings.
The world of RK is vast and beautiful, give it life, it's all
going to waste.
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TiffanyKo
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True. Give player owned vendors. So we can place them all
over Rubi-Ka =)
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Greystar_Euro
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Hehe
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TiffanyKo
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Player owned houses
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:)
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TiffanyKo
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Player owned store/shops
Player owned clubs
Etc
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For the future that be awesome, but for more immediate fixes,
they need to make outside hunting viable and have meaning
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TiffanyKo
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Indeed
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Nailz
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Ok, I think that about wraps it up
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Was a pleasure Nailz
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Nailz
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Ee've seen lots of interesting answers today, I certainly
enjoyed it
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TiffanyKo
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Me too =)
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Nailz
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On behalf of AO Stratics, I would again like to thank and
congratulate Hextorr, the first level 200 Fixer, he is The Man!
Also TiffanyKo, the first level 200 MP. Well done both of you.
Best of luck in the future!
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Thank you! :)
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Greystar_Euro
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Have fun ;)
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